Is Donald Yung for Real or is it a Scam
Hello,
I'm starting this post because I paid a lot of money to Donald Yung the spellcaster and have not obtained satisfactory results. Any questioning or negative reviews are deleted by the host of SPELLSFORUM.ORG and NOT posted.
Does anyone else have similar experiences or frustration? Please post.
I'm starting this post because I paid a lot of money to Donald Yung the spellcaster and have not obtained satisfactory results. Any questioning or negative reviews are deleted by the host of SPELLSFORUM.ORG and NOT posted.
Does anyone else have similar experiences or frustration? Please post.
posted by Truth Seeker at 1:00 AM
588 Comments:
For Truth Seeker:
When was your spell casted and what was it for? When did Donald tell you, you would see results?
i pay $450. only to Gaiia who gave the same name of the person to collect the money. i almost spend $1500 on donald. thank God i found your site. Gaiia, Torri they are all a scam. I am from GA she won't return my emails. PP
This is a website that I found on him also. It sez its from 1999 from Prediction magazine. Can anyone go on prediction magazine's website and maybe try to call to find out how did they interview Donald? I emailed them to ask, but haven't got a response yet. But for now I have to wait until the 13th of May or after I guess. He's pretty confident and bold to say you will see results in 14 to 28 days and to say he has not failed a love spell in 10 yrs. I will put my story here definately if things happen.
http://www.ahintofseduction.com/donald_yung_psychic.html
opps here's the website.
I started poking around about Donald Yung. I paid him money and am supposed to have results after the 13th too. But, since I started poking around I found out many things. If you look at a website for Carlos Luconi in Italy, he has almos the same credentials as Donald Yung. I have contacted several different places and professionals throughout the world about these two individuals. What I could get confirmed was the credentials of Carlos Luconi who, in fact, told me that he was trying to find out what legal ramifications he could have against Donald Yung. The thing is with Donald, he only asked for 1/2, and from what I can see, I didn't pay very much considering others. If things don't work like he said, I'm not paying the other half. I also tried to contact Predictions Magazine - this was supposedly posted in the October 2005 edition, but have not received a response. No one that I have spoken to has either heard of Donald Yung or has been able to verify anything about him. I even contacted a few places where his certificates are from and they couldn't verify things either - mostly because they don't keep records that long. I don't see any negative comments for Donald Yung, but I did see negative comments for other spellcasters on spellsforum.org - I guess I can let you all know after the 13th. My email is travelgal79@yahoo.com if you want to know the results.
Travelgal, is that your correct email address? I tried to email you and could not get through.
travelgal79@yahoo.com
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I'm not really nervous yet. I have to wait for the 13th first or a some days afterwards. Gaiia has been pretty good with money spells from what I read. I got a spell from Donald so I'm just gonna wait. He does respond to emails I have to say. So lets see.
True, anonymous. If I have not had a big win by this time next week from Donalds spell then I will panic.
Gaiia offers a money back policy, which is something. I have to admit, she has answered all of my mails professionally and quickly.
Oops... my correct email is travelgal79@excite.com
Sorry
Donald told me that if I don't get the results he is 500% sure I will get by the end of May, he'll refund me 200%. He's responded to every email so far and has been patient and kind. I didn't start paying until after the spell but now I'm concerned about him being a scam. I talked to his manager Carl Hoffmann and he said he's bringing a lawsuit against that Lucioni guy. I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
I don't know who to believe either! It's frustrating.
Some comments on the two sites (spellsforum.org and http://www.apprized.com/) that 'promote' Donald Yung who happens to be the star of all recommendations ....
a. All positive comments on Donald Yung ... too perfect, isnt it? I honestly hope it is, so that I could jump on the bandwagon too with REAL hope. How is he going to attend to so many clients (i.e. preparing the spellworks, performing them, and returning the mails promptly) even if he is genuine, taking into account of the publicity that he is getting at the moment. I believe real efficient spellwork will take time, energy and concentration to cast properly. I might be wrong here.
b. As I am genuinely looking for a true honest caster to help me out, I am concerned about the credential of the caster. I emailed Donald Yung about the similarity between his life's content and that of Carlos Luconi. I have yet to hear from him.
c. I emailed to the contacting address of http://www.apprized.com regarding the same issue. My mail got bounced back. Invalid address.
d. As it was mentioned that Donald Yung will end his work with the public at the end of May, hope that this will no be the start of his 'disappearing' act. Maybe I am over sensitive here and I could be wrong again.
d. I sent a query to spellsforum to find out why a popular spellcasting website's reviews were removed totally and suddenly. I tracked this particular website's review in spellsforum as I ever had a comment submitted and posted under this reviewing website. No answer from spellsforum till now. This has given me the idea that they are not only censoring the content of the websites under review, be it true or fake, but also what website shall be listed for reviwing purposes.
I just keep trying to tell myself that if he was a scam he wouldn't offer 200% back to me and he wouldn't be limiting the time he's available to everyone. Any thoughts?
How come he said that he would offer you 200% money back? Did you ask him for a refund if the spell did not work?
hey travel gal,
Check your email. Well for thats pretty good that Donald will give you a refund if the spell doesn't work (to anonymous). That is giving me more confidence now. Atleast you can say that he is an honest individual. The things that make me believe in Donald is that he tells you what date he is going to cast the spell and for how long the spell takes to cast. He sez the process is 1 day (4hours to perform). That shows detail atleast. He has been really confident.
I emailed him in a panic from sites like this that make him seem fake and he said he was 500% sure and that if we weren't together by the time he said he would pay me 200%. I never asked him for a refund, he offered it up, I guess as a guarantee.
Did you actually say that you read about him possibly being a fake?
Sorry for all the questions, but I paid Donald $2000 for a spell, and I have not got that much money to spare.
To the person who says how can he respond and do spells and everything. I emailed him before he was casting my spell (8:30 pm) he started and he said he was starting now and he'd email me tomorrow with how it went. He emailed me the next day around 6pm telling me he was exhausted and that it went great. He said he saw what I want when he was casting it. There are def nights where you don't hear from him from when it is dark on so I'm thinking that's when he does the spells.
NO, I've never seen anything making it def he is fake. PS, I'm a student and I paid $3000 so I know where you're coming from. I just don't get how people can totally discredit spellsforum.org because it's monitored. I know it seems sketchy but could it be that there is something real to this guy?! I have posted there a number of times with just ok feedbacks saying I hadn't seen results yet but I wasn't supposed to yet.
PS, I think it might be something that each spell is different prices. If it was scam like some other sites, like that Kyra Meadows lady, it's always the same price $100 and you never hear from her again. I dunno, any thoughts?
I was happy to see some comments. Yes, it's true, Donald DID respond to most all of my emails...EXCEPT the last one where I started questing why the spell was taking so long.
He originally told me I would see results by end of April or first days of May. NOTHING significant happened. THEN he told me that he would do a booster spell at "no cost". Still nothing. I'd like to believe too..and still hope a bit, but we can't close our eyes to the reality, whatever that turns out to be, which isn't looking good so far.
How can he explain using Carlos Luconi's bio? OR that SPELLSFORUM.ORG does not post our reviews?-Plus, there are 198 present reviews on that site as "submitted" for Donald and only 162 are showing. SOMEONE? is deleting a lot of people's comments.
In the end, I wish for everyone their dreams to come true...money isn't important, it's faith in honest people. Never lose that, no matter what the truth turns out to be about Donald.
As he says in his emails...
"Cheers"
Well, like I said before, I talked to his manager Carl Hoffmann and he said he knows about the Lucioni site and he's preparing a lawsuit. And just so you know, when I asked Donald for the name of his manager so I could email him with a question, he misspelled it so I really doubt they are the same person.
Also, I did a "consultation" with Lucioni, WHICH YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR, unlike with Donald, and when I got to the page where I send my request there was no way to send it. Then he emailed me asking what I wanted and I told him I was using another person and I wanted a booster he said he won't do that. So I paid money for nothing. At least Donald doesn't take money before he helps you.
Thanks. I'm a student too, hence the panic.
How old does Donald look on his site? 30 maybe. That "bio" says he was born in 1959 which would make him close to 50 (46). Maybe he used a beauty spell on himself.
I read that Luconi told someone else that inquired to him that HE, not Donald was real and provided them with his credentials and said he was going to go after Donald for copying.
I know, I read that too but doesn't it sketch anyone else out that that yahoo site is all weird letters except the english that people are blogging with? How do you know how old that picture is? He could be that vain that he wants to always seem that young, what does a picture have to do with his possible skills? Plus, if you google Lucioni's name, there's a site in spanish, that if you translate it with babblefish it says he's a spellmaker who takes unsuspecting people's money. That's a news article, not some blog.
Sounds to me it's one word against another.
I do have to say this though. Donald told me that I would hit a small prize, and that night I won £50, which is a massive coincidence if he was fake.
http://charlatanes.blogspot.com/2004/04/la-cabaa-de-las-cabecitas-locas-5-el.html
Here's the site you have to translate.
PS, in spanish, which I'm fluent in, Charlatanes, means charlatens or con-artists in today's language.
How much is 50 pounds in US dollars?
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Roughly $90
That sounds good to me, do you usually win?
Sorry $95, just went onto a currency converter.
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No, the most I have won is £10 (roughly $18)
Well, it's things like that which make me hopeful that he's real. Didn't it help you believe at all?
Donald also is going to do a ritual tomorrow night for my spell, which is a pretty tough case, because of the full moon.
Yes it did help me believe. To be honest I did start doubting him when I was not winning anything, which made me email him. He got back to me later that night to say I will definitely hit a prize that week. When I logged onto my computer the following day, there was an email from the lottery team informing me I had won!
I think it just takes some time because we live in a world where we want results immediately. He has told me to just do some meditation and stay calm and wait for the spell to take its effect. I hope you keep winning and I hope I get my true love back.
Thank-you. I hope your love does come back to you.
Good point about that maybe being an OLD picture of Donald. I hadn't thought of that before. Okay, well, I emailed Donald and asked if he would give me a full refund since I didn't see results in the time he said I would. I will post and let you know if he responds. I also did a lottery spell and haven't won a penny. Plus, to the person who said Donald said he would give a refund, he can say anthing, it's if he actually does it that matters. Also, the spellsforum.org site and the zodiac-biz site have the same registrar and the identity of both registrants are concealed on purpose. Don't know if that means anything but just thought I'd throw it out there.
Someone should ask Donald directly about spellsforum.org. I'm sure he will say he has "no idea" but shouldn't he investigate it if it's at the center of how he is getting business and if he is an honest person? WHY DOESN'T SPELLSFORUM.ORG post any negative or questioning comments about DONALD..try it and see if it gets posted. Mine didn't.
That's a lot of work to do to get business if the spellsforum site is run by Donald. Believe me, there are plenty of people who will go the any site they find they feel is going to work. People with desperate situations will do anything. I just don't know why he would stop being available to the public to go do charity work in Senegal, which is confirmed by various Italian newspapers and reporters who are going to follow him, when he has such a nice raquet that everyone seems he does here.
His charity work deal is being publicized by a "press release" from WebWire, a site where you or me can post any "press release" for a small fee and it gets picked up by the search engines. Check out the WebWire site.
What other confirmations are there that he is doing charity upcoming? Where are the newspapers you talked about?
Plus, it's not a lot of work for him to do to make at least 100K in one month. How easy would it be to create a web blog like spellsforum.org? It was done for free on this site by someone.
I was wrong, it's not an Italian reporter, it's an African Newspaper. Here's the information. Mr.Mamadou Sall of the National newspaper LeMessager will travel with Mr.Yung to document his work. Here's the newspaper's website http://www.lemessager.net/. It's in french, which I know is the language they speak in Senegal.
Where on that website at http://www.lemessager.net/
is Donald even mentioned?
The only reference is from that WebWire press release that HE submitted to the search engines for a fee. Check out WebWire.com yourself.
I've checked that, I know about it. I don't speak french so I can't look it up. Are you honestly telling me that the people who run webwire aren't fact checking or if that wasn't true, don't you think there would have been some fallout about it being a lie?
Yes, absolutely, that is what I am honestly saying: THEY DO NOT FACT CHECK: Look at this copied and pasted, especially the last line (from the WebWire site):
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Also, fallout from whom? The only people that care are the ones that have paid money to him and that is what this site is about...
Understand that if you submit something like that and it ends up being false, you're reputation is short lived and that means if it is a scam, how long can you expect to keep it up before you lose your income?! That's a risky move if you ask me.
After making over 100K in one month under a false identity, I don't think he cares about "his" (whoever he is) reputation. This is sad but true, the Internet is a scary place these days. He will be gone before long and no one will be able to track him or get there money back. How sad is that?
I would not want to jump into conclusion whether Donald Yung is real or fake...I BELIEVE that he does perform magics and spells.
What is disturbing is that the 'supporting stuff' of his have been rather secretive and giving the public, rooms to sow their doubts. If I were a man of Donald yung's power and credentials, I would not want Spellforum to 'tarnish' my reputation in this matter. It will not reflect good on me.
If what he promises is true, he is your saviour and you will be happy and will probably return for more in the future.
If what he promises doesnt work out, I would like to know how are you going to going to get the refund? Credit to paypal or what? Pardon my ignorance...I am quite new to all these.
If this whole thing is a scam (sorry for the taboo word), they could have promised you 2 times or 5 times the refund.It doesnt matter ... because it is not going to happen, anyway. Both parties can promise you they will take legal each other, etc.Until it really materialize, all these are simply pure talking. Nothing to lose, right?
Looking at another angle, it doesnt mean that this is a scam even if what he promises doesnt materialize in the timeframe.... he could have been just overpromising his clients and failing to manage his clients' expectation.
last but not least, does anyone actually see the news in a REAL newspaper about Donald Yung's visit to Senegal? not just a hear-say circulating in the internet?
I dont think I am offending Donald Yung over my post here if he is genuine in his work and helping people out of their problem.
Time and result will tell...
If Donald Yung is real, and a normal human with real feelings, he will be able to appreciate how people are investing so much hope and trust in him (and it really has nothing to do with money), and will understand why people are wondering if he is real....
I for one hope he is real, but I don't think if he is real, he would be offending by people asking these questions. They are legitimate discussion.
As for it not happening for some people, that is not accurate, since Donald promises himself 100% result. He said he doesn't take cases where it won't happen. That's why people are willing to pay so much. So if nothing, happens, it's not the persons fault, it means Donald was not being honest or accurate and he should give a 200% refund. Doubt he will. Human nature.
Donald is a SCAM
Everyone who paid through PAYPAL must request a refund through the PAYPAL system.
There is a fraud prevention process within PAYPAL. Act now.. ASAP
Does anyone have experience with Dragon Spells LLC?
If so, please post here. thanks
To Person who says he is def a scam, how do you know?! Give us concrete info so we can know to start the process with paypal.
Hello there,
Until now I dont know if Donald is for real. I paid $1500 for fortune t career spell and I paid $1800 for my other spell. This is a big amount of money. If Donalds spells won't work, can we help one another get our money back. How do you think can we do this? Lately, he's not prompt in answering emails. Lets help one another get our refund if our spells dont work. -GINA-
I can tell you that I'll be seeking my refund that was promised to me if my spell doesn't work. I don't want to get my money back, I'd rather have the spell work but I know that may be out of my control. Anyway, I have it in writting in the email saying I will get a refund so I'm going to use that. If you, Gina, can get the same and neither of us see results which I hope we do, then I suppose we can work together. When I emailed Donald inquiring about blogs like these he became very angry and said he can prove it and he will not deal with those kinds of questions. I do have to say that I work very closely with a psychic that I know is real and ever since the 10th, which is when Donald said things would start changing, she hasn't been able to read my situation as clearly because she says the other party is very confused where as before she was clear that he was not waivering on his decision to end our engagement. So I can only hope that this is the start of the spell's effect. So I hope for both our sakes, I don't have to work with you Gina, but if we do, I certianly will.
-S-
To Gina:
Yes, we will try to get your money back if the spells don't work, but maybe they will work. When are you suppose to see results? N.M.
I know I'm supposed to see results after this full moon at 1:45 am and they will be complete before the end of the month. The original time frame Donald gave me was 20 days. Which would make it the 21st of May. I have agreed to wait until the end of May. If it doesn't work, I will be contacting Donald on June 1st.
-S-
Dear everybody,
Its almost 3 weeks and i havent had any results with Donald for the $3300 total spells. Not a single result. I already filed a claim thru paypal and they will investigate. Also Donald will not be available after May, what is that so act now and be fast. If more people who has not gotten results do this, then paypal will honor our request and give our money back. Next time we will be more careful. Please email me: ginamie4you@yahoo.com
ginamie4you@yahoo.com:
How long did Donald say it would take for your spell to work? Can you tell us if he said it was a difficult situation?
-S-
Gina:
HOW EXACTLY do you file a claim through paypal??? The website said they only guarantee on "goods".
Also, Donald has no domain name. He uses yahoo address. People who are legit will have their domain name like maybe: psychicdonaldyung@witchcraft.com and not psychicdonaldyung@yahoo.com. Also we investigated and he has no payment address verification. I we havent seen results after the 12 or 13th as promised, we need to act fast before he leaves or i think shut down his website. Also, log on to wicca-wisdom-spells.com and go to there forum section. There's a whole forum about Donald and how he (zodiac-sign,biz and spellsforum.org) are only one.
-S-
To the person asking how to file a claim at paypal. Of course you can dispute services especially if the spell didnt have results. This is easier to prove.
First, log-in to your paypal account. Go to resolution center. Click file a claim. Then answer the question. Select services. I said, Donald promised me resultsin 7-14 days. I waited longer. Its almost a month and haven't seen results. Please investigate.
Then Donald should contact paypal and prove to them that he is legit. good luck!
Gina:
I filed two claims with PayPal as you mentioned through there Dispute Center. We'll see. Thanks for the information! Good luck to you, keep posting here. N.M.
Has anyone ever used Sister Moon? Results? How long before Results?
-S-
Sister Moon is legit. In fact, there's a forum in her website where you can post comments (negative or positive). Also customers post there results there. I hope this answers you question.
Just ordered a spell from sister moon. Going to start the fraud process for Donald. I guess I'm not going to wait to see if I get results until the end of the month, I'll wait until the 21st like he said initially. Does anyone have any success stories with sister moon and love spells?
-S-
Well, I contacted Donald, and he said that my big prize will definitely come up either today or wednesday. If by wednesday, I still have not won, then I will be claiming my money back.
Tx
TX:
I did a lottery spell too. How much is your big prize suppose to be? -N.M.
I paid $2,000 and was told the minimum i would win is $500,000.
Tx
How about you?
Tx
Tx:
Donald told me that I would first win small amounts and then hit the big one by this full moon. I played again tonight and nothing. I emailed him awhile back and asked him how much I was suppose to get in the big one but he never replied...that's why I was curious as to what he told you. N.M.
has anyone get results or there money back from GAIIA. PLEASE HELP.
Hi Everybody,
I think Donald promised us to win a big amount of money by the full mooon which is by the 13th. We need to get a refund if our results are not met. I paid Donald $3300. No results yet. Today is my 3 weeks. I bought lottery tickets and never won big prizes. Said the minimum I could win is $30,000. Nothing. Now I emailed him twice and no response. He usually emails promptly. What are we gonna do. He will leave by May 31, maybe ??? close the site and then it will be too late for all of us. -Hyacinth-
I plan on waiting the 20 days I agreed to wait for my results, May 21st, and the minute after 12:00 AM I'm contacting paypal.
-S-
Is the carlos lucino guy real he wanted 1500 eur to cast a spell. he claims donal is a fake. does anyone know about him. PP
N.M:
Donald replied to my email that I sent him yesterday, saying I will defo win either today or wednesday, but something tells me I won't.
When I paid for my spell he gave me three options:
1) Pay $1200 to win between £10,000 to $50,000
2) Pay $1500 to win between 100,000 to $500,000
3) Pay $2000 to win $500,000 +
I took option 3. He also told me that I would win small prizes before the big one. I have to admit, I did win $95 which was the most I have ever won playing the UK lotto.
He told me last night that I will be winning the big prize tonight or Wednesday the latest.
Has anyone used Gaiia?
Tx
Yes, has anyone used Carlo Luconi? Results?
-S-
carlo luconi look like an older version of donald. PP
What is Gaiia like? Is her results good?
Tx
For "S"
When did you email Donald about the blogs? I tried to email him about that...and have not gotten any response. When you say angry how was his email? and how did he say he can prove it?
Dan
I really don't think we should email him about it anymore because he might disappear earlier if he thinks people are onto him. He told me in the email he didn't have time to play my games and he is real and he can prove it. He will not respond to me if I continue this way. He also said he is giving me my money back by the end of the month if it doesn't work and asked what i had a problem with for that deal. He said please do not email me until June 1st. PS, so Carlo is a fake too?
-S-
To "S"
Do u have any messengers? like aim or yahoo? I do....or email address?
mine is Tainosalseron2 for Yahoo. IM me
to "S"
Hi,
I gave Donald 500USD to pay for my spell and that's in installment. Look here, frankly speaking, I'm a Singaporean and the convertion rate of SGD to USD is a huge amount. If this was to be a scam, I would lose 500USD and I WOULD NOT be getting my money back as I paid up by Western Union.
For those whom Donald promised a refund if the spells do not turn out what they wanted, do you think he will pay up, if this is a scam? If it was me, I would just fade out and nobody can find me.
Donald promised me that my love spell would come true on 30th of May. He gave me a ceremony to follow. My girlfriend is now with another guy and I would like to get back with her. My heart is in pain and I cannot sleep every night.
You get what I mean? A person when he/she is in a desperate situation, they will turn to anyone for help. If we were not be in a desperate situation, we would not even think about casting a spell. I guess that when we pass our money to anyone to cast a spell, we still have something to hold on to. A tiny ray of hope, otherwise we will go bonkers. Is that correct? Even though, sometimes we know that it will not happen. We are just paying money to have a ray of hope for our desperate situation. We just need something to hang on to.
For those who say that Donald is a fake, kindly keep them in your hearts. Let us still have that bit of hope. And if something really happens, let that be attributed to Donald. If not, that will be when all reality comes crushing in.
-given83
There are some good, healing dicussions on love spells and waiting for them to work at
http://www.wicca-wisdom-spells.com/forums/forum3/
I started to read those forums and it has helped me a bit ...
but please keep posting results about Donald here..we all are going to know soon enough whether he was real or not and will need to support each other with words if he is a fake..(hopefull he is not a fake). N.M.
N.M I am with you on this.
Tx
Thanks TX,
I ordered a lottery spell but also a love spell and it's really the love spell that would break my heart if it's not real. Let us know if you win big, at least you should try and play...you never know..
-N.M.
N.M - I will defo let you know. Tonight's draw has yet to be drawn.
I can understand why you want the love spell to work more then anything! I have been there, done that, so I totally understand.
Tx
N.M:
Just to let you know, NONE of my numbers came up, I even played extra ones!!
To all you people hoping that you will get a refund:
- Donald Yung (or whatever his real name is)
appears to live in Argentina (I tracked his email IP Address with emailtrackerPro).
You can bribe police very easily in Argentina - sorry guys, but that's a fact.
- Paypal will NOT give you refunds for spiritual services because according to US laws you can only buy those services "for entertainment purpose" - so there is NO way that you're getting your money back.
Sorry folks.
Reality bites.
Donald replied to me yesterday about all of this and he wasn't angry. I am supposed to have results within a few days after the full moon (which was yesterday). I will be able to post and let everyone know if things come true or not the way he said they would. Honestly, I am only waiting a few days and then I'll let you all know. I had a bizarre dream last night about my situation which I have never had before. I don't know if that is part of spell work or not...maybe it was coincidence that it happened on the night of the full moon. If the dream is a image of what is going to happen and Donald had something to do with this, then he is real. But, it was only a dream, I guess I'll have to wait to see what happens in a few days.
K
Last night I could not sleep even though I was exhausted and completely relaxed. I woke up around 4am after finally falling asleep around 3am and my face was bright red and really hot but I took my temperature and I didn't have any where near a fever. I'm not sure but I'm not tired at all today for not having any sleep, which usually when that happens I'm exhausted. I dunno, think of it what you will but perhaps my money didn't go to waste! Let's keep our fingers crossed.
-S-
Is there a reason that the person who posted about bribing the police and no refunds needs to be so smug about it. These are still people who have feelings on the line and you're not making any better with your reality bites comments
To the person who said PayPal will not give refunds. HOW do you know? Did you try it? Also, the claim wouldn't be based on buying the spell and not getting results per se, but that FRAUD was involved since many people only gave him money because of believing that the SPELLSFORUM.ORG site was legit. There seems to be mounting evidence its a scam connected to Donald.
To those of you who are feeling any physical sensations and attributing them to the spell, I felt that way too..Donald told me that the spellwork however (at least for love spells) was directed at interfering with the thoughts and feelings of the person that I wanted to love me (NOT me) so any positive or negative thoughts I had about it wouldn't matter and it would still work. You see, I was worried at first, because I told him that I was skeptical, but he said it wouldn't matter at all and it would still work. So I'm not sure what the physical sensations mean if the energy is being directed to the other person?
To be honest, I've been having trouble sleeping too, but I can't tell if that is just because this is all emotional or because something is happening with energy to the man that I care about.
N.M.
I just thought of something a bit concerning...IF Donald is a fake, and IF he gets wind of this blog, he may just come on here and start creating fake posts like MAY BE doing on spellsforum.org (or whoever works for him)...so let's be careful and not mention this to him and if people start posting their positive results, let's ask them for details so we can make sure they are real...
Also, there were a lot of positive results posted on spellsforum.org. I wish we were able to get their emails but there is no way to contact those people to confirm.
Any thoughts on these ideas?
S - could you please email me - travelgal53213@excite.com
K
1st there are legal ramifications for fraud, if indeed you can prove beyond a doubt that fraud occurred. However, how many of us want to end up in court to debate if this was fraud or not. I have not checked out the policy as of yet for fraud on Pay Pal. There are usually loop holes with everything. But, if you don't try you would never know. I am still giving this all a shot for the next few days...that is when Donald told me that I would see results.
However, has anyone attempted to get a copy of the 1999 Prediction Magazine article/interview featuring Donald Yung? I have written and am waiting for a response. Personally, I feel this may hold some clues as to if Donald Yung is real or not. If there was an article/interview done in 1999 with Prediction Magazine, then we should all feel a little more at ease. To date I have not heard anything, but I will keep you posted on this site. Again, my email for anyone is travelgal79@excite.com - I have had several different people contact me and we are all kind of working together on some things.
k
k
Hi, the email address you gave me is wrong, you can email me at usa389@aol.com
-S-
Thanks K-
I am at mygeneric@sbcglobal.net as you know. Donald finally answered my email where I asked for a refund because the spells have not worked so far. He was nice, said he would check on things on Wednesday and if things were as I said (namely, that he saw no results) he would give me a refund next Friday. I think that is fair. I would have rathered my spells to work but at least he is willing to refund me. I'll keep you posted here.
Who is the person that said "sorry folks.reality bites"? What happened with you and Donald? Please let us know why you are so bitter...
I did a WHOIS lookup on that website that "quotes" the Prediction Mag article with donald: www.AHINTOFSEDUCTION.COM
It appears that it is owned under "domains by proxy" the same as spellsforum.org and zodiac-biz.org.
This is a way where people can own a site without giving out their personal identification.
This is all so sad if these people are in coherts on a big scam to take advantage of vulnerable people.
In the end, they are just evil greedy people and will get what is coming to them.
Yes, I saw that the
www.AHINTOFSEDUCTION.COM website might not be a good source of proof. I've written to Prediction Magazine in hopes to obtain a past edition or some answers.
Again, I'll keep you posted.
k
N.M.
Donald told me that any emotions I have or are going through are because of the situation - not because of the spell.
I do have contact daily with the ex, and he has told me for the last couple weeks he has had trouble sleeping at night. He contributes it to many things, but who really knows why.
When did Donald say you would receive results? You can't beat yourself up, we all want this to work, but you also need to take care of yourself. Trust me, I'm going through it too!
Donald told me to stay calm and I would see the results within a few days after the Full Moon...I'm waiting patiently.
k
Hi,
I emailed both Tori and Donald to ask them for the person that we have to send the money to in Western Union. Tori's assistant was in Sweden and the assistant name is Jens Johansson and that HAPPENS to be the name that Donald gave to another person! http://www.talkaboutreligion.com/group/alt.religion.wicca.moderated/messages/130487.html. When I emailed Donald, he gave the name of Osvaldo Jorge Marchioni and that also happens to be the name that Gaii gave to this person! What if these 3 sites are connected together with spellsforum and its an international scam syndicate spanning from Sweden to Argentina? Then it would be no wonder that there's no bad post about these 3 sites...
-given83
Does anyone know if we are all to see results as an effect of the full moon? Did Donald say that all the spell work will kick in now that the full moon is finishing tonight?
-S-
I have seen many comments about people waiting for the full moon cycle. Some are saying the full moon in May and some in June.
I will tell you that there is a Federal Bureau that does Internet Scam investigations, but you should have some proof before even contacting them. Everything right now is very circumstancial and, therefore, I don't want to contact anyone at the Bureau just yet.
I guess the best thing everyone could do is post and try to verify his credentials and awards that are listed on his website. I have started with many and I am continuing.
I know there are other people doing the same. If anyone finds out anything, the need to post the results...either way. Contacting the places where he received the awards, his certificates, etc.
That is my best advice right now. And, hope that this is not a big international scam. I have a hard time believing that someone would go to this length to pull a scam, when there are plenty of sites that are out there without this type of PR and they completely scam people daily. This would be pretty elaborate, but it could be done.
k
Hi,
I believe that Sister Moon and Supernaturalservice are set up by the same person. Take a look at this Q&A. Notice that some of the answers provided are the same.
www.supernaturalservice.com
/QnA.html
http://www.wicca-wisdom-spells.com/faq.html#when
-given83
I ordered spell from both Tori and Sister Moon, may I ask if they are scam or real? Any idea?
I need a help while I'm in deep sorrow.
Thanks
I hope he is not fake, I really want him to be real. Like I said, none of my numbers came up last night, so if I have nothing again next week, I will ask for a refund, as I can't spare the money I have paid him.
Tx
i think the key is finding out more about carlos lucino what if he an donald yung and gaiia working together internationally. they are not going to give refunds i have been trying for a month from gaiia $450. no answer to my email western union collect the money is gone. i have learn my lesson. so carlos asking for $1500 euro for same spell. how much in usd anyone? i was scared. carlos did not come to the phone the lady the translator stated he does not speak english.....hey that could be gaiia. my last dollars gone. wish all of you luck. PP from GA USA.
That would be 2000USD. Ya, I think that we should get to the bottom of this but in the meantime continue to keep our hopes alive.
-given83
Has anyone heard from Donald via email (yesterday) on the 13th or today? Has anyone asked him how he would refund someone if he would so?
-D-
I emailed Donald today, I will let you know if he gets back to me.
Tx
This whole probing started when "krayze03" from talkaboutreligion associated Donald Yung with "Carlos Luconi" due to their identical credentials.
If this is an international scam, I would think it is stupid and careless on their part to "cut and paste" the credentials' writeup. Since they can come up with a such impressive 'resume', it would cause the group little effort and time to change the style, presentation and content to form another impressive writeup. Or at least, shutdown Carlos site when Zodiac’s site surfaced? They should also keep the accounts of these brother-sister sites exclusive….. you don’t leave clue behind for surfers to start poking….Btw, does anyone hear of zodiac sign before the beginning of the year? I doubt so. I noticed it only only in late fed at spellsforum.
If either donald or carlos is the copycat, for goodness sake, never do it word for word. It is self-destruction in the world of internet!
When I didnt get a response from Donald about 10 days ago when I asked him about Carlos, I did a check on the acronym,BSIA as found on one of his awards - British Security Industry Association ???
Given83, I am singaporean too…
I have tried to enlarge the images of the awards from Donald's websites, but they come out too blurry to read. Can anyone else read them?
Again, research is all we can do to entertain ourselves. Really, I don't think we should be discussing this with Donald any further. 1st if he is real and working on our spells, do we want him to be bothered with this all the time. 2nd, if he isn't we don't want him to catch on that some are suspicious.
k
Yeah Everybody,
So any spectacular results for the full moon. Donald is quite upset because of this blog to his email to me. He said people can't prove that he is a scam. He said give 6 weeks for spells to work and then he will give refund personally not go thru paypal. I saved that email for evidence. Also he said, he will just be in Senegal for 1 week and would not disappear. What's your opinions guys.
-Hyacinth-
Well, I can understand him being upset. People are speculating, which I suppose is human nature at the end of the day.
Tx
All his certificates are FAKE:
Donald's certs: http://www.zodiac-sign.biz/index2.htm
The originals:
http://www.palmreading4u.co.uk/assets/images/framedcert.jpg
http://spiritoftherose.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cert_spiritreleasement2.jpg
http://www.thinkparallel.net/images/portfolio-coll/astrocertificate1.jpg
http://www.energobalance.at/images/certificate/Bilder/tarot_jpg.jpg
http://www.kathsrealm.com/photos/usuimastercert.gif
to Hyacinth
When did he email you telling you he would refund you or when he was upset? what date? do u have an email address?
-D-
I just recieved an email from Donald after I tried to update him like he had said earlier and because I had inquired about the scam rumors he said to no longer email him until the 1st of June because I offended him. Honestly, I paid a lot of money for his "services" and I deserve answers to my questions like, Why is communication b/w me and the subject lessening when it should be increasing? Any thoughts?
-S-
Can someone or anyone try to have an idea of how to go about some investigation? Something has to be done, honestly. He is not responding to no ones email. Either Carl Hoffman or someone from the zodiac-biz site should be held accountable. We all must try to make an effort....
Guys,
Donald is not being professional. Just go ahead and get your money thru paypal and let them investigate. The more people, the better. Just because he is offended doesn't mean he stops answering emails. I told you, June 1 he is going to Senegal so act now and get your money back. Besides, he originally said 7-21 days for spell to work. How come we will wait 3 more weeks.
-Hyacinth-
Hyacinth-
What did you say in the email that he mentioned the blog? When was this? Did he refuse email service to you as well?
I just wrote to Salim Jima who has a certificate. Can I ask how did you find out that Donald didn't receive one too? There may be more than one out there. I'm still trying to be positive. As I've said before, I will know shortly if anything is to come for me.
Again, I would urge everyone to not alert Donald to all of this. If it is a scam, this gives him heads up and time to ditch quicker.
Really,
I can't believe anyone mentioned this blog to Donald. Really, it all should have been kept hush, hush.
It is common nature to question things. How do you not know he is loging in to see what we've found out, if anything? Not that it would be hard to find this, but it doesn't hurt to have a little discretion. I'm not sure about posting anything that I find out now. Or, what my next move will be, if any.
Hey, Im krayze03 who found out about the Carlos Luconi site. It seems donald IP address is from somewhere in Argentina but the website www.spellsforum.org and zodiac are the same and so are gaiia, etc. if you check their domain address its registered in Hayden, Texas. It could be run by the same people. Gosh....too many scams out there. I paid for a spell and will contact paypal next week if my results don't manifest. I haven't seen anything at all. First Donald told me 2-3 wks. Now he keeps pushing it . He said it will take another week. Geez...I hope this blog warns others about him. And YES...spellforum will not put any negative comments....totally unrealiable! - krayze03
Oh , and for the person who asked about Dragon spells...don't try that guy James MOrgan...totally a scam. I called him and he said it would be like 2000.00. at that time I didn't have the money so I told him I needed to save up....but he kept telling me " we need to start now before we lose more time" blah blah blah. He said to give him 500 at least. Geez....what a jerk! Then he called my phone about 5 times and emailed me another 2-3 times about his services and Kyra Meadows is another scam. I ordered a spell from her bc it was cheap...no results!-
Krayze03
Yep, Kyra Meadows is a peace of work. I paid her and never heard from her again.
Regarding this blog and Donald. Do not mention it specifically to Donald! If you must, you should just question his creditials and the fact that he and Carlos have the same bio. That said, if he does already know about this site, it probably won't make him do anything different than he was going to do anyway.
If he is REAL, he should be understanding because this is the only forum for us to talk about our results, etc.
If he is FAKE and its a SCAM, he's already decided that he can get away with it by putting people off for more weeks and promising refunds but never following through.
N.M.
But we can still get our refunds right if we dont get results. He specifically mentioned it in an email to me. yes he knows about this blog. Some person told him about it "maybe to clarify". That means to say he needs to prove his work better esp. people questioning him.
What did he say in the email about the blog, did he say he was going to set out to prove himself to all the doubters?
What do you mean when you ask "but we can get our refund right?" That is what we all don't really know. If he is legit., the answer is yes, if he is not, then he has no intention to give refunds, he just made a lot of money on people believing in him and his "credentials". I wish there was a guarantee to get the refund, but now it's just his word. If someone actually does get a refund from him, let us know how he did it. Thanks.
hyacinth-
I saw your posts on spellsforum. you said you had won a few small prizes that you had never won before. So did you get what you wanted or not? just curious
shamus
Just looked on Donalds site, and it says he is fully booked, which is a coincidence considering he now knows about this blog! Something tells me to get refunds now! Contact Paypal if he does not get back to you.
SOMEONE blogged earlier the text below about his certificates. I can't get to those sited you listed. Can you explain how you found out his certificates are FAKE? Thanks.
Your comment:
All his certificates are FAKE:
Donald's certs: http://www.zodiac-sign.biz/index2.htm
The originals:
http://www.palmreading4u.co.uk/assets/images/framedcert.jpg
http://spiritoftherose.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cert_spiritreleasement2.jpg
http://www.thinkparallel.net/images/portfolio-coll/astrocertificate1.jpg
http://www.energobalance.at/images/certificate/Bilder/tarot_jpg.jpg
http://www.kathsrealm.com/photos/usuimastercert.gif
Why is it when I run a Google search on Donald Yung, Carlos Lucioni comes up on it too??
FYI:
From: catherine yronwode
This name was not known to me before you mentioned it, but there is a
large syndicate of European fake-name spell-wrokers, astrologers, and
psychic readers who make similar claims, can mostly be traced back to
Swiss addresses (from ostensible addresses in Britain, Italy, Belgium,
etc.) and who operate a mailing scam in which, after they get a mark,
contact him or her again, under a different fake name, claiming to be a
psychic who has had a vision or a dream that they must contact the mark
with important psychic messages. The umbrella name some folks use for
this outfit is the "Maria Duval scam" but there are dozens of other
names used. Here are two very good, must-read pages:
http://www.astrocat.exactpages.com/index1.html
http://www.indevelopment.org/2002/article_suite10.htm
I am not saying that David Young or Carlos Luconi are part of this
cartel, but the description is similar.
I advise all those who are seeking help from readers to please look over
two articles i have written to try to help keep people dfrom being
suckered and to deal only with reputable workers and spiritual
counsellors. The two URLS are
"Readers and Rootworkers" http://luckymojo.com/blackgypsies.html
"Is Magic Guaranteed to Work?" http://www.luckymojo.com/spells/real.html#3
Another comment from another blog:
I would be very cautious of these sites that offer judgement on
services from different sites, for one reason they seem to be "one
sided". I just had one shut down for copyright infringment and deep
linking to my site. There was nothing bad said about my site but they
had copy word for word text from one of my web pages and they also had
an illegal deep link. They were registered with Domains by Proxy who
hides the identity of their clients but once they reviewed my complain
and proof that Spellcaster.info was engaging in illegal acts they
dropped them. Then I had to contact Go Daddy who they were really
registered with (Domains by Proxy is a company of Go Daddy) and present
them with the same complaint and finally they shut them down. These
sites seem to be set up to direct you to who they want you to be doing
business with. So when using them do so with utmost caution.
Miss Alice
www.augustinespiritualgoods.com
Has anyone got their money back?
Tx
carlos lucino email oragun@hotmail.com. he wanted payment of $1500 euro in 3 payment just like donald. if anyone want to trace or help with more information. PP from GA USA.
we have to shut them down. p. fr: GA
If they are fake, then yes, they need to be shut down, and we all need to be refunded. I am still awaiting on a reply from Donald!
What paypal address did people send their money to Donald through? After looking on Paypal, it looks as though he is unable to receive any money??
donald did not have a paypal for me he and gaiia had send me special email stated to send payment western union online which i did for gaiia. they know what they were up to. now he shut it down next he is going to shut is website down. PP fr: GA.
he had a Paypal option
I don't have the email for that but
the company is called Key Point Awareness
Pay To: Key Point Awareness
Payment For: Services By Psychic Donald Yung
--
see here
http://www.zodiac-sign.biz/1500.htm
oh great, i had a spell cast by donald too. he still cold be real. anyone had a spell cast by aisha haadi from egyptian-witchcraft.com????let me know thanks
When I sent money to Donald through Pay Pal - I just used his email address psychicdonaldyung@paypal.com
The next thing I received was an email from Donald saying he got the money and not to cancel.
Seems like he is offering different people different options. I was given the hotmail address: magickal_services@hotmail.com
Aisha Haadi, what can I say! Stay away from her, her spells don#t work! I used her 3 times for different problems, none worked!
She did have a review section on Spellforum.org, with a star rating of 0.80 out of 5. This mysteriously dissapeared a couple of weeks ago.
Hi Lookhere,
Whr do you live? I live in JW. Let's use short form for security's sake. Maybe we can meet up and do the investigation properly.. Aaon03, I noticed the site too. I was wondering if any of you has heard of it and who has tried her b4?
Donald emailed me to tell me that the results can be seen before 30th of May. For those going by Paypal, you guys are the lucky ones. I had no Paypal and had to pay by WesternUnion. If you suspect that he might be a fake, get YOUR MONEY BACK IMMEDIATELY!
-given83
I just used his email address on paypal to see if any info came up, as he gave me a hotmail address to pay for my spell, which is now redundent. I was able to find this telephone number:
+46 087525025
KK
Did you try calling that number? I'm at work, so I can't call. The company would flip if they saw an international call pop up.
No, I have not, for the same reason.
KK
p.s. if anyone could, that would be great!
Attached is the website link for the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation Internet Crime Compliant Center. A complaint can be filed with them and they will start an investigation. There are instructions on what is needed to file a claim. I guess you need to judge for yourselves if you have given it enough time for the spell to work, if you have given him the chance to refund the money, etc. If he isn't compliant, then this would be my recommendation for the next step. You could always appeal to Pay Pal, but they aren't obligated to do anything.
http://www.ic3.gov/
If he was real, why would he give out several different paypal addresses?
+46 087525025
that's a Swedish phone number. Probably in Stockholm.
Did he not say his assistent was in Sweden?
Still no response from Prediction Magazine or anyone else that I have contacted.
Can anyone else email Prediction Magazine at:
prediction@ipcmedia.com
And request a copy of the October 1999 article/interview which featured Donald Yung. It was supposedly reproduced on a website www.ahindofseduction.com with their permission.
Maybe if they get enough emails they will respond one way or the other. Right now, I'm not getting any type of response from them after several emails.
i feel sorry for all you people you all need to get your money back now!!!! this guy is a scame you should of known that from the start just on the amount of money he was asking and if anybody dose get results rest to sure they will not last.. your best bet is start looking up on your own how to cast your own spell investergate in that because spells will work but, dont do it until your heart is true and your intentions are good for you and the one your casting the spell on...and direct the others with good intentions dont be malious..do it right because your energy is the best way..good luck to you all
if this is a dupe, do you think will it be easy to get back what you paid out? The gang would have prepared for such a move if they are covering every grounds.
Donald Yung, who claims to be dealing with celebrities, would cherish a lot of his reputation. It would be easy for him to rebuke all the doubts and stop keeping the clients long in discomfort zone than simply asking his clients to just wait for result when he knows that the trust for him has shaken. Did he actually perform the ritual on clients' behalf? No one knows except DY!
Silence on his part is should not the response to this matter ...maybe he is simply the remaining few species roaming this Earth to react in this manner. Some celebrities have weird behaviour … when given the benefit of doubts.
I have tried Aisha ... not positive. I made a comment about Aisha's service at spellsforum, got posted but the whole thread was later dropped from the spellforum's home page. I emailed spellsforum for Aisha's review to be reinstated but was met with silence.Maybe egyptian-witchcraft was threatening to expose spellforum's doing if the reviews were not taken down...my guess.
Given83, I am staying near TP, eastern part of spg but work near bugis. No, I did not hire Donald’s service ( see my first mail right near the beginning of this blog)…but was really impressed with his credential. I saw a hope. I waited to observe (as I have other commitments and the cost involved) and this whole thing started to blow up. Sleeping time.
so does anyone know on any spell casters that could work????
is anyone going to try another or give up??
For the person who was wondering by BAPS stood for - it means British Astrological & Psychic Society.
http://www.baps.ws/british_astrological.htm
In case anyone didn't realize, Donald has taken his credentials off of his website. That is smart in case a fraud case comes up...it's unfortunate for him that I saved those credentials as they were listed on his website.
Has anyone heard from him. I've left emails and nothing.
Hey guys, FYI , here are the emails he used with me for payments. And the date is when he started the account. As you see, He has created many accounts bc I think paypal had a limit to the amt. of money you can exceed. So perhaps he keeps creating new accounts after he reached the limit.
magickal_services@hotmail.com
( didn't find out the date)
psychicdonaldyung@yahoo.com(Energy And Spirit )Mar. 16, 2006
phone number:+46 087525025
paypal_ordering@yahoo.com (Key Point Awareness )Apr. 24, 2006
Maybe this can be on NBC news or Dateline, or Oprah? any suggestions? If this is a scam ...and I think there is a very good chance there is since no one had posted good results...we can put this person ...whoever it is behind bars!
Can't someone hack into spellsforum.org? or if anyone has any friends to hack into those sites to put something on the zodiac sign and others? Spellsforum had like 246 reviews and now they dropped it down to 203.
These sites can be hacked into, I know its possible, but I don't know how to hack.
Can't someone hack into spellsforum.org? or if anyone has any friends to hack into those sites to put something on the zodiac sign and others? Spellsforum had like 246 reviews and now they dropped it down to 203.
These sites can be hacked into, I know its possible, but I don't know how to hack.
Can't someone hack into spellsforum.org? or if anyone has any friends to hack into those sites to put something on the zodiac sign and others? Spellsforum had like 246 reviews and now they dropped it down to 203.
These sites can be hacked into, I know its possible, but I don't know how to hack.
The British Astrological & Psychic Society (BAPS) has received a number of enquiries concerning Donald Yung. We can confirm at this stage that David Yung is not a current BAPS member, nor has he been for at least 10 years although we are still checking our records concerning his original Certificate. However, we would mention our standard has been upgraded since 10 years ago and we certainly do not subscribe to those who offer spells and there is definitely no certification for that.
Jackie Towers
BAPS President
For the person wondering about NBC Dateline or other news source...most of us are listing ourselves as anonymous on this site...would you really go on television, show your face and tell them that you purchased a spell. Especially if this is for a love spell...I know I don't want my ex to find out that I tried putting a love spell on him...talking about sounding crazy!
glad to have found this forum. spellsforum annoys me.
First about Aisha-I had ordered two of her most powerful spells-the PRC and the Amun-Ra-and had paid for a reinforcement-no result, whatsoever. I had also posted on spellsforum but the entire thread was deleted.
I tried Tori, dragon spells, Eva, Kyra-all for the same case with no result.
I contacted both Sister Moon and Donald for another case. Sister did not offer anything more than increased contact adn gradual development with the target-and I'd say it came to pass but not in a very magical way. In other words, it probably is the natural course of things. Donald supposedly completes the spell today and told me to wait 2 weeks. Some people wrote on spellsforum that they experienced shivers etc-same thing happened to be but I suspect it is simply psychological.
fortunately for me, I did not pay as much as you guys because I bargained with Donald-of course, I am not going to pay the rest if the spell does not work.
You must know that I was one of the last two cases he took up so I would not say that he purposefully is not taking any more customers so he can disappear. I kept on checking the website and last week, after I ordered, it went down to 1 spot left-and now it's zero. After all, he could have ripped off at least 10 more ppl until the end of May. on the other hand, I also fear that zodiac might be "updating" so that they differentite the website from Luconi's. HOwever, I doubt the latter is real either.
I fear and suspect that both are fake.
Personally, I must say I've had more success with simple candle magic and meditation-wiccans here will no doubt approve.
I am so tired of being alone that I wanted something drastic, I guess.
I'll post if I see any improvements in the upcoming weeks-but on the other hand, what I want has already a force of its own so for me a result would be a drastic change, as Donald said I should see.
He's been good with emails so far but like som eof you, I inquired into the Luconi thing-and have not heard back since-that was maybe 2 days ago.
I hate spellsforum though. They are so random-some of th epositive comments I had about Donald or neutral ones about Tori were not posted either. have no idea why. And some of the negative comments about the websites they don't favor were not posted-these guys suck.
I am unsure as to why spellsforum only posted zodiac.biz and Donald pretty late after Tori and the rest were already up there.
it's obvious that some of the inquiries and neutral comments come from normal people but these guys might just allow them to be posted to create the facade of a balanced and free forum, to set against perhaps the fabricated positives.
Yea..I wouldn't want to show my face on NBC but we need to scare these scammers...I mean they need to know they can get caught and nned to stop ripping off innocent people. Perhaps, NBC can change my voice and not show my face or something, so my identity wouldn't be given away.
Let's continue getting more information about Donald. But, that's do it before May 26th as the zodiac-biz and Donald will be gone by end of March. In this case, we can then decide on the best course of action. What say you guys?
Lookhere, you lucky pig! Your working place is so near your house. My working place is in TP too. Its at the HDB Hub.
I agree with you. We all need to gather as much information as possible to prove one way or the other that he is fake or real. And, we should do this as quickly as possible. I have not seen any results - Wednesday would be the last day that I should have to wait for the 100% guaranteed love spell that he hasn't missed on in 10 years. Maybe his luck is running out and he is missing every time (just being sarcastic). Again, as many people as possible should be writing to all of these organizations or places. Keep on posting any and all email addresses of contact people and everyone needs to email them. They will hopefully get tired of all the emails and reply to at least one. I told BAPS about this site in the hopes that they would see what this is all about. I think I'll be trying the same again tomorrow with Prediction Magazine - we need to know if the October 1999 article that was posted on www.ahintofseduction.com was in fact a true interview/article in Prediction Magazine and if it was reproduced with their knowledge. Little by little, we need to break things down. Get one little detail solved before moving onto the next. I think the fact that BAPS is looking into this is good. Hopefully, they will keep us all updated. Now, if we can get Prediction Magazine to come through...that would be two things. I have saved his life bio that was previously on his website and I can send it to anyone that wants it (since it's not there anymore). I just wanted to have proof of how he portrayed himself to all of us, just in case he is fake. travelgal79@excite.com
In case anyone is not checking the spellforum site, Donald's site is not a really low rating even though it has all the same reviews and even the number of reviews on the main page is waaaayyy less than it actually is. Maybe they are trying to hide themselves and their lies, check it out for yourself and see what you think.
Yesterday on Spellforum.org, there was over 240 reviews for Donald Yung, now there are only 205, which has forced his rating up?!? Strange isn't it.
Seems to me that this blog is pointing to the fact that he is fake! I hope I get a refund.
from now on, there is a NEW and
REALLY unbiased forum for spellcasters review:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/witchspells/index.php?
it belongs to spellcaster Lyra Wolfe
http://www.witch-spells.co.uk
messages are uncensored, unedited and immediately published when you post them.
Going to have a look at that site now.
Donald Yung's name has been submitted.
you can also access the new forum here
http://www.witch-spells.co.uk/forum.html
Has anyone had a reply lately from Donald?
I haven't...just trying to keep tabs on him.
I have, he said to contact him again at the end of this week if I have had no results.
This is a blog not about donald per se but about spellsforum. Guys, we need to get this spellsforum bs shut down asap! In the past I've had all my negative posts about Tori etc deleted. Last night, I experimented by giving about 150 reviews-so copy pasting with 0 stars to Donald. the rating went down from 4.8 stars to 2. something, with zodiac sign falling down to last place. Of course, none of the comments were posted. This morning though, the rating is back up where it was. I did the same for Tori and Gaiia-with the same result.
This is as clear a bias as can be. My guess is that some of these sites are owned by spellsforum and the rest pay a fee to get themselves listed as top 10. Those who threaten spellsforum, like Aisha, are exempt from negative comments. The only accurate thing on there are probably all the negative comments about the sites that these people do not protect.
It is sad because as long as this site is up, people will be fooled into believing it's a real forum. They put it as if the mods are only looking at spelling and grammar. first, even on the site main page, the few lines introducing the site are flawed with grammatical mistakes. Secondly, some of the posts are written by foreigners whose English is very very difficult to understand and the posts of whom are filled with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. Obviously, the posts are not modified for grammatical errors but are posted if they don't challenge the interests of spellsforum.
THIS SITE NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IT IS BS.
Well, I just posted on the spellforum site that I didn't receive any results like Donald promised and that Donald hasn't emailed me back either. Of course, I put zero stars - lets see if this gets posted. I guess I won't hold my breath.
Spellsforum.org, have taken Donalds site off theirs!
Donald is not the top spell caster anymore of Spellforum.org. He has gone down to 5th place
What a surprise! Donald is back in the top spot again!
CON CON CON!
i emailed him and havnt heard back either, i will let u know if i do. the person who wrote that aisha is a threat to them so they let her negative reports be written up, does that mean you think she is real????ive heard she is really good
Where did you heard that she's really good? From other sites or? Ya, the zodiac-sign.biz was fifth just mere minutes ago but suddenly it went back to No 1. Anyone saw the number of posts? It was 300+ when it was fifth and went back to 200+ when it went back to No 1. Lookhere, I work in TP too.
-given83
DONALD IS NOT THE ONLY ONE GAIIA / TORRI IS ALSO A SCAM. WE NEED to get rid of the whole site. put the pressure on all . gaiia won't respond with my refund she uses the same person like donald. PP GA
Did anyone see this posting on spellsforum.org:
NOTE FROM MODERATORS: SOMEONE IS POSTING TONS OF REVIEWS TO MAKE SOME CASTERS GO DOWN AND OTHERS UP. WE HAVE HER/HIS IP LOGGED.
carlos state he won an award in Boston but i can't find it. PP
tHIS IS how spellsforum.org responds:
Feedback:
this is weird? i saw the number of feedbacks goin up by the second. . .in fact it reached 375. . .but what i see posted are only 207. where did the others go??? please try to post your feedbacks. . .most especially the great news. . .so you could plant more hope in our hearts. . . .really. . . .the hardest part is . . .waiting. . . NOTE FROM MODERATORS: SOMEONE IS POSTING TONS OF REVIEWS TO MAKE SOME CASTERS GO DOWN AND OTHERS UP. WE HAVE HER/HIS IP LOGGED.
what losers-this site has to be brought down.
guys, I posted several negative reviews on spellsforum and they actually blocked my ip address. these guys have to be brought down for sure.
We have to spread the word!
I couldn't find anything on the Silver Continent award that supposedly Donald and Carlos won in Boston. I don't have enough free time to do the research, but I think a good place to start would be the Boston City Hall - that where the Mayor's office is. The Mayor's name, I believe, is listed on Carlos' website.
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